1 00:00:07,309 --> 00:00:04,570 well good morning everybody again and 2 00:00:09,350 --> 00:00:07,319 I'm going to begin by adding a few 3 00:00:14,509 --> 00:00:09,360 things to what Courtney said as to why I 4 00:00:16,970 --> 00:00:14,519 claim to have a credible reputation in 5 00:00:19,519 --> 00:00:16,980 ufology I'm probably the only one in the 6 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:19,529 room who ran a proprietary program for a 7 00:00:23,660 --> 00:00:20,850 half million dollars back in the late 8 00:00:25,550 --> 00:00:23,670 60s for McDonnell Douglas investigating 9 00:00:28,700 --> 00:00:25,560 the question of how would you proceed to 10 00:00:29,990 --> 00:00:28,710 develop a gravity control device I'm 11 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:30,000 probably the only one in the room who 12 00:00:35,540 --> 00:00:33,570 owns four thousand pages of questioned 13 00:00:39,590 --> 00:00:35,550 leaked documents and I'm probably the 14 00:00:41,030 --> 00:00:39,600 only one in the room who was given 15 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:41,040 hundreds of thousands of dollars to make 16 00:00:47,770 --> 00:00:43,770 a television documentary on the subject 17 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:47,780 of UFOs and so with that background I'm 18 00:00:58,250 --> 00:00:50,210 claiming that what I'm going to say is 19 00:01:00,410 --> 00:00:58,260 believable now however however what I 20 00:01:03,380 --> 00:01:00,420 was asked to do was to provide a 10 21 00:01:06,320 --> 00:01:03,390 minute summary of your father g or UFOs 22 00:01:09,380 --> 00:01:06,330 for the SSC members most of whom do not 23 00:01:13,850 --> 00:01:09,390 know much about the subject except what 24 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:13,860 we just heard from jerry clark and i'm 25 00:01:16,700 --> 00:01:15,210 going to give it to you in four parts 26 00:01:20,390 --> 00:01:16,710 first i'm going to tell you what I think 27 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:20,400 I know and the more you get involved in 28 00:01:24,740 --> 00:01:21,810 a sub T of course just less you know 29 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:24,750 what you know but I'm going to try to 30 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:27,450 create a I have created a slide that I 31 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:30,329 think is one that everyone on the panel 32 00:01:33,740 --> 00:01:32,130 tonight will all agree with well we'll 33 00:01:36,020 --> 00:01:33,750 see then I'm going to share some 34 00:01:37,969 --> 00:01:36,030 surprising facts with you deal with some 35 00:01:40,789 --> 00:01:37,979 unanswered but interesting Lee 36 00:01:43,060 --> 00:01:40,799 scientific questions and didn't find up 37 00:01:46,850 --> 00:01:43,070 wind up with what are the issues today 38 00:01:49,580 --> 00:01:46,860 first is the summary what I think I know 39 00:01:51,380 --> 00:01:49,590 for sure and the first one is that I 40 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:51,390 know for sure that Professor James 41 00:01:55,490 --> 00:01:53,490 McDonald was a professor of atmospheric 42 00:01:59,389 --> 00:01:55,500 sciences at university of arizona in the 43 00:02:02,480 --> 00:01:59,399 late 60s and that he studied cases with 44 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:02,490 great intensity and depths especially 45 00:02:07,459 --> 00:02:04,890 radar visual cases where there were lots 46 00:02:09,350 --> 00:02:07,469 of witnesses he presented his 47 00:02:11,210 --> 00:02:09,360 conclusions to a number of scientific 48 00:02:12,830 --> 00:02:11,220 societies and gained a reputation such 49 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:12,840 that he was asked by Congress a 50 00:02:15,740 --> 00:02:13,530 congressional 51 00:02:19,250 --> 00:02:15,750 mittee to tell him what he thought and 52 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:19,260 in that testimony he said I think that 53 00:02:23,090 --> 00:02:20,970 the least unlikely explanation is that 54 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:23,100 the extra-terrestrial hypothesis is 55 00:02:29,150 --> 00:02:27,330 correct since he was a very cautious 56 00:02:31,940 --> 00:02:29,160 scientist he said least unlikely instead 57 00:02:34,610 --> 00:02:31,950 of most likely the second thing I'm I 58 00:02:36,920 --> 00:02:34,620 believe I'm certainly sure of is that 59 00:02:39,470 --> 00:02:36,930 they're real craft they make dents in 60 00:02:41,630 --> 00:02:39,480 railroad ties if they land military 61 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:41,640 confrontations Duke occur planes have 62 00:02:46,970 --> 00:02:44,730 been shot down and actually I think 63 00:02:48,350 --> 00:02:46,980 quite a few more planes than have been 64 00:02:50,300 --> 00:02:48,360 no matter of public record have been 65 00:02:52,340 --> 00:02:50,310 shot down both in this country and in 66 00:02:55,580 --> 00:02:52,350 the Soviet Union I'm certain that 67 00:02:59,750 --> 00:02:55,590 consciousness reports are present that 68 00:03:02,120 --> 00:02:59,760 is interactions between the craft even 69 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:02,130 if you don't see any creatures and 70 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:06,090 interactions with potential aliens I'm 71 00:03:09,559 --> 00:03:07,890 certain that the reports are worldwide 72 00:03:12,140 --> 00:03:09,569 and they've been going for a long time 73 00:03:14,690 --> 00:03:12,150 in fact we just heard Jerome Clark 74 00:03:18,470 --> 00:03:14,700 summarize a number of specific cases 75 00:03:20,030 --> 00:03:18,480 that are in that domain and finally I've 76 00:03:23,479 --> 00:03:20,040 concluded that there are some reports 77 00:03:26,390 --> 00:03:23,489 that are really curious that there are 78 00:03:27,770 --> 00:03:26,400 time anomalies where people are missing 79 00:03:30,350 --> 00:03:27,780 for a few days and yet their watch is 80 00:03:31,970 --> 00:03:30,360 the same time or vice versa or people 81 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:31,980 are missing for a few days and they've 82 00:03:35,509 --> 00:03:33,570 grown a beard or they'd be on no beard 83 00:03:37,340 --> 00:03:35,519 go or they haven't been missing in the 84 00:03:39,590 --> 00:03:37,350 Google of you grow a beard so anyway 85 00:03:42,380 --> 00:03:39,600 those kind of time anomalies are puzzle 86 00:03:45,620 --> 00:03:42,390 mats that are a little bit more 87 00:03:47,660 --> 00:03:45,630 difficult for everyone to deal with so 88 00:03:50,690 --> 00:03:47,670 this is what I think I know for sure and 89 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:50,700 one of the ways I know for sure is as 90 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:51,810 we're talking about earlier and the 91 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:53,450 question answer is from the evidence 92 00:03:57,680 --> 00:03:56,250 well the evidence is the available 93 00:03:59,960 --> 00:03:57,690 evidence now if there are crashed 94 00:04:01,509 --> 00:03:59,970 vehicles and they're kept secret 95 00:04:04,009 --> 00:04:01,519 somewhere we don't have that evidence 96 00:04:06,020 --> 00:04:04,019 but we do have the evidence that shown 97 00:04:07,610 --> 00:04:06,030 here we have a witness testimony we have 98 00:04:09,229 --> 00:04:07,620 the photos we have videos we have 99 00:04:10,789 --> 00:04:09,239 official government studies we have 100 00:04:13,310 --> 00:04:10,799 distinguished leader quotes and we have 101 00:04:15,500 --> 00:04:13,320 leaked documents and I'll give an 102 00:04:18,110 --> 00:04:15,510 example of each of these three beginning 103 00:04:20,180 --> 00:04:18,120 with this photograph comparison which I 104 00:04:21,589 --> 00:04:20,190 really love because the top one was 105 00:04:23,630 --> 00:04:21,599 taken by Paul tread upon minh ville 106 00:04:26,450 --> 00:04:23,640 oregon in 1950 in the bottom was by 107 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:26,460 French Air Force pilot in 1954 and the 108 00:04:29,180 --> 00:04:27,450 similarity of these 109 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:29,190 apes and different times have always 110 00:04:37,430 --> 00:04:32,490 impressed me the second evidence example 111 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:37,440 is a hand written quote from j edgar 112 00:04:42,710 --> 00:04:40,050 hoover who says we must insist upon full 113 00:04:44,540 --> 00:04:42,720 access to disks recovered for example in 114 00:04:46,390 --> 00:04:44,550 the LA case the army grab that would not 115 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:46,400 let us have it for cursory examination 116 00:04:51,860 --> 00:04:48,330 that's July fifteenth nineteen 117 00:04:55,250 --> 00:04:51,870 forty-seven a little bit after the 118 00:05:00,380 --> 00:04:55,260 roswell crash the third example i have 119 00:05:01,940 --> 00:05:00,390 is an example of a leaked document that 120 00:05:04,490 --> 00:05:01,950 i believe to be athletic this is from 121 00:05:06,550 --> 00:05:04,500 the Special Operations man the special 122 00:05:08,630 --> 00:05:06,560 operations manual is entitled 123 00:05:10,550 --> 00:05:08,640 extraterrestrial entities and Technology 124 00:05:12,710 --> 00:05:10,560 recovery and disposal and actually 125 00:05:17,060 --> 00:05:12,720 there's examples on the table in the 126 00:05:18,530 --> 00:05:17,070 other room this statement says it may 127 00:05:20,630 --> 00:05:18,540 become necessary to issue false 128 00:05:22,250 --> 00:05:20,640 statements to preserve the security the 129 00:05:23,660 --> 00:05:22,260 site meteors down satellites weather 130 00:05:26,660 --> 00:05:23,670 balloons military aircraft are all 131 00:05:29,840 --> 00:05:26,670 acceptable so we have had a deception 132 00:05:31,910 --> 00:05:29,850 policy now now the second set of things 133 00:05:33,950 --> 00:05:31,920 I want to share with you the facts that 134 00:05:35,780 --> 00:05:33,960 might surprise you first extensive 135 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:35,790 reports of crashes Downing's and 136 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:38,370 retrievals you you would probably be 137 00:05:42,230 --> 00:05:39,930 amazed to know that there's book out 138 00:05:44,690 --> 00:05:42,240 called magic eyes only written by my own 139 00:05:47,420 --> 00:05:44,700 son Ryan Ryan are you in the room yeah 140 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:47,430 he's right there so if you want to quiz 141 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:49,050 him on this way you can do that at the 142 00:05:54,020 --> 00:05:51,690 break but he this book says that there's 143 00:05:55,490 --> 00:05:54,030 75 crashes they identified very slow as 144 00:05:57,440 --> 00:05:55,500 a quality some of them require more 145 00:05:59,660 --> 00:05:57,450 investigation but he's used remote 146 00:06:01,970 --> 00:05:59,670 viewing in order to verify the location 147 00:06:04,970 --> 00:06:01,980 of previous crashes and to find the 148 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:04,980 location of new crashes he uses the 149 00:06:08,860 --> 00:06:06,330 string field cases and he still 150 00:06:12,890 --> 00:06:08,870 identifying new locations and debris and 151 00:06:14,630 --> 00:06:12,900 debris there there's another thing that 152 00:06:15,830 --> 00:06:14,640 surprised you probably would be that 153 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:15,840 there's multiple indications that 154 00:06:21,350 --> 00:06:19,050 crashes started in 1941 242 the Cape 155 00:06:24,020 --> 00:06:21,360 Girardeau crash is a classic one and 156 00:06:29,030 --> 00:06:24,030 then the ones relating to the Battle of 157 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:29,040 LA the third point is that some leaked 158 00:06:33,350 --> 00:06:31,050 documents may seem to be seem to be 159 00:06:36,230 --> 00:06:33,360 authentic that might surprise you it's 160 00:06:38,900 --> 00:06:36,240 easy to say well these days is so simple 161 00:06:41,060 --> 00:06:38,910 to get a sophisticated word processing 162 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:41,070 program and create almost anything 163 00:06:44,870 --> 00:06:43,410 that seems authentic the answer is if 164 00:06:46,220 --> 00:06:44,880 you have the original papers it's not 165 00:06:48,740 --> 00:06:46,230 that easy and I'll talk about that later 166 00:06:52,430 --> 00:06:48,750 the fourth thing is that some abduction 167 00:06:54,650 --> 00:06:52,440 tales suggest reality and lastly the 168 00:06:57,140 --> 00:06:54,660 thing that I think most people have no 169 00:06:59,900 --> 00:06:57,150 grasp of especially people who have been 170 00:07:02,630 --> 00:06:59,910 largely in your University domain so 171 00:07:05,630 --> 00:07:02,640 they have no idea of how sophisticated 172 00:07:07,790 --> 00:07:05,640 the government deception is and can be I 173 00:07:09,830 --> 00:07:07,800 mean we built a whole city called Oak 174 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:09,840 Ridge and nobody knew about that 175 00:07:15,590 --> 00:07:14,490 essentially nobody now the third thing I 176 00:07:18,530 --> 00:07:15,600 want to share with you by way of 177 00:07:22,370 --> 00:07:18,540 introduction is that there are questions 178 00:07:24,910 --> 00:07:22,380 that you follow just ask that are really 179 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:24,920 scientifically interesting in fact I 180 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:28,050 proposed to MUFON the mutual UFO network 181 00:07:34,130 --> 00:07:30,930 and we'll hear from James carrion who's 182 00:07:36,020 --> 00:07:34,140 the director of that tonight some 183 00:07:37,910 --> 00:07:36,030 research projects a history research 184 00:07:41,060 --> 00:07:37,920 project how do they relate historically 185 00:07:42,860 --> 00:07:41,070 demand a travel research project how do 186 00:07:45,770 --> 00:07:42,870 they get here from there wherever there 187 00:07:47,690 --> 00:07:45,780 is and what's their energy source how do 188 00:07:49,690 --> 00:07:47,700 they communicate why are they abducting 189 00:07:52,310 --> 00:07:49,700 people and then finally this last one is 190 00:07:53,930 --> 00:07:52,320 added to that list and that is our their 191 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:53,940 technical secrets that have already been 192 00:07:59,990 --> 00:07:55,530 discovered that we just don't know about 193 00:08:02,510 --> 00:08:00,000 in the unclassified world so with those 194 00:08:04,850 --> 00:08:02,520 three thoughts behind us let's go to the 195 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:04,860 final thought set of ideas I wanted to 196 00:08:09,860 --> 00:08:06,690 share with you so that when you hear the 197 00:08:12,140 --> 00:08:09,870 panel discussion tonight and appreciate 198 00:08:14,150 --> 00:08:12,150 the questions that the those who are 199 00:08:16,940 --> 00:08:14,160 knowledgeable or asking each other and 200 00:08:19,730 --> 00:08:16,950 are dealing with the skeptics with these 201 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:19,740 are the kind of hot issues are some or 202 00:08:24,170 --> 00:08:22,770 all of these documents hoaxed the second 203 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:24,180 is why wouldn't the government be 204 00:08:28,610 --> 00:08:26,970 willing to disclose the truth and if 205 00:08:30,710 --> 00:08:28,620 their extraterrestrial higher van they 206 00:08:34,700 --> 00:08:30,720 contacted us it seems like there's large 207 00:08:38,150 --> 00:08:34,710 numbers of societies that have been 208 00:08:40,459 --> 00:08:38,160 reported in shapes it's amazing that 209 00:08:43,219 --> 00:08:40,469 least one of medicine tried how could 210 00:08:44,870 --> 00:08:43,229 you hide so much money to do the 211 00:08:47,300 --> 00:08:44,880 research necessary to secretly study 212 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:47,310 this technology and is there any real 213 00:08:51,530 --> 00:08:50,010 evidence that we have back engineered or 214 00:08:52,790 --> 00:08:51,540 reverse engineered anything that we 215 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:52,800 might have recovered from these crafts 216 00:08:56,060 --> 00:08:54,450 and is it 217 00:08:58,670 --> 00:08:56,070 possible that some of the abductions are 218 00:09:04,810 --> 00:08:58,680 not real and it's all a matter of what's 219 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:04,820 in our mind so these are those are the 220 00:09:11,060 --> 00:09:08,010 main ideas I wanted to share with you in 221 00:09:14,060 --> 00:09:11,070 the context of I've studied this subject 222 00:09:16,250 --> 00:09:14,070 for a long time and the more I study at 223 00:09:17,810 --> 00:09:16,260 the less I'm totally sure of but 224 00:09:19,610 --> 00:09:17,820 remember the five things I showed you I 225 00:09:22,370 --> 00:09:19,620 really sure of it's probably good to go 226 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:22,380 with and now you know what the issues 227 00:09:30,170 --> 00:09:27,210 are so now I'll proceed to the other 228 00:09:33,230 --> 00:09:30,180 part of my talk today which was the 229 00:09:39,710 --> 00:09:33,240 evaluation of two original paper leaked 230 00:09:46,310 --> 00:09:39,720 UFO documents and they are shown here 231 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:46,320 well see before I say that what well the 232 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:48,330 first one is an encyclopedia of flying 233 00:09:54,980 --> 00:09:51,810 saucers by Vernon gone and actually this 234 00:09:57,860 --> 00:09:54,990 was given by him to the Air Force in